I have a Saanen billy goat around 9 years old for sale. He's been around my two old does lately and I haven't had any kids. They've had kids in the past and they were all big twins. I think the does are too old and barren or he's shooting blanks or both but he's aggravating them too much and he needs to go. He's a pet and a pest at the same time. If you'd like to give him a try he's $100 cash. I bought him from the goat guy in andice and he never mailed me his paperwork but he's full blooded Saanen. Cash only. No haggling. I'll take some pics soon.